the fed says, we absolutely need them to keep the economy going, and you need a stronger economy for your business. at the same time, your numbers show that with interest rates so low, it's really hard for you guys to make money in this environment. how do you feel about that? it's a double-edged sword, right? >> yeah, michelle, it is. so we actually make more money when rates are higher, so we'd like to see rates higher, particularly, a positive-sloping yield curve. you know, the fed has a strong view in consensus that rates need to stay low. i'm not generally in that camp. i think the early stages of qe were probably good. i think it's very debatable now whether it's doing any good or not. i personally think the economy trying to find its own natural structural, level of stabilization, and it's going to do that at its own pace, with or without qe. a lot of people disagree with that. but i think it's about confidence, not about how much qe we have. >> mr. king, appreciate your time, sir. thanks for joining us today. >> thank you very much. have a good day. >> great to have you on. >